We "try" not to start one of them in the shop you talk about white smoke, sputter, etc. I have been less than impressed with that engine in the MXM130. Navistar has the DT466 emmisions compliant for on road specs. Look closely and the resemble IVECO's way more than any Cummins. True the NEF/EEA engine are 1/3 money from each. Posted 20:08 (#2898 - in reply to #2766) Subject: Re: End of the genesis engine 2007 Tier 3 requirements will cause more than a few changes by all manufacturers. The new engines coming from CNH are a joint development design from CaseIH, Iveco and Cummins. Posted 06:53 (#2766 - in reply to #2677) Subject: Re: End of the genesis engine 2007 Posted 23:17 (#2729 - in reply to #2677) Subject: RE: End of the genesis engine 2007īoy howdy! Talk about a lapse in judjment. I'm sure that a decision made somewhere in Italy had something to do with that. Posted 22:11 (#2693 - in reply to #2677) Subject: RE: End of the genesis engine 2007 They could have done like Navistar did with the old DT466 and make a 4-valve, common fuel rail genesis by just redisigning the head and piston crowns. So by dropping a 330HP capable 7.5L they are going to have a large HP gap with the choice of the 240HP capable 6.7L NEF/EEA engine and the 8.3 Cummins or 8.7L Cursor. Instead they are going to focus on IVECO design engines for all future machines. It official, in CNH's ultimate wisdom they are shutting down the assembly lines for genesis engines and all old Ford block and head assemblies. Posted 21:28 (#2677) Subject: End of the genesis engine 2007